Who needs hackers when you have balloons?

The latest episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast gets a little carried away with the Chinese spy bubble saga. Guest host Brian Fleming (filling in for me while I’m at the Canadian Ski Marathon), along with guests Gus Hurwitz, Nate Jones, and Paul Rosenzweig, share insights (and bad puns) on the latest reports about the electronic surveillance capabilities of the first crashed balloon, the Biden administration’s response.” shoot first, ask questions later” on the latest “flying objects” and whether we should all be spending more time worrying about Chinese hackers and satellites.

Gus offers some thoughts on the State of the Union address and brief but sharp calls for antitrust and data privacy reform. Sticking to big tech and antitrust, Gus summarizes a significant recent loss for the FTC and discusses what may be on the horizon for FTC enforcement later this year.

Heading back to China, Nate and Paul discuss the latest reports of an upcoming (at some point) executive order intended to limit and monitor US outbound investment in certain key aspects of China’s technology sector. They are also considering how the industry might continue its efforts to narrow the scope of the restrictions and whether Congress will get involved. Sticking to Congress, Paul takes the opportunity to explain key takeaways from a not-so-bombshell House Oversight Committee hearing involving former Twitter executives.

Gus then describes his favorite ChatGPT jailbreaks and a costly mistake for a competitor AI chatbot during a demo.

Paul recommends a fascinating interview with Sinbad.io, the new Bitcoin mixer of choice for North Korean hackers, and reflects on the significant portion of the DPRK’s GDP attributable to ransomware attacks.

Finally, Gus questions whether the AI-created “Nothing, Forever” will have to change his name after becoming sentient and channeling Dave Chapelle.

To wrap things up in the week’s quick hits, Gus briefly highlights how things are going with Chip Wars: Japan Edition and Brian covers coordinated US-UK sanctions against cybercrime group Trickbot, confirmation that CFIUS will not investigate the Twitter sale, and the latest on SEC vs. Covington.

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